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	<title>Comments on: John Ashbery&#8217;s PLANISPHERE (Ecco, 2009)</title>
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		<title>By: Michael Leong</title>
		<link>http://bigother.com/2010/01/23/john-ashberys-planisphere-ecco-2009/#comment-3997</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Leong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 20:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, John-- thanks for the comments!  Yeah, that statement begs some questions, doesn&#039;t it?  

Well, I think reading Ashbery&#039;s poetry opens up certain channels of awareness, that it puts the brain in a particularly helpful and creative state. 

I&#039;ve been thinking about something Stephen Burt says about Ashbery which Daniel E. Pritchard quotes in his review of _Planisphere_ (http://www.criticalflame.org/verse/0110_pritchard.htm): 

“When you interpret Ashbery at all, you risk having sceptics tell you that you made it all up: that the poems demonstrate ingenuity not from the poet but from his interpreters, who find music in static, meaning in randomness, synthetic silk in a succession of sow’s ears...&quot;   

I think the risk is definitely there and it&#039;s one that should be taken seriously, but all of those activities listed (finding music in static, demonstrating ingenuity of interpretation, etc) sound like pretty positive things to me.  &quot;Making it all up&quot; can be beneficial--  I mean there is something to be said of writing that will elicit creative responses (like Christopher Robinson&#039;s at Flatmancrooked-- I loved that Machine, by the way).  I guess I want to suggest that Ashbery&#039;s work urges us to creatively respond to our environment--no matter how random or static-filled it may seem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, John&#8211; thanks for the comments!  Yeah, that statement begs some questions, doesn&#8217;t it?  </p>
<p>Well, I think reading Ashbery&#8217;s poetry opens up certain channels of awareness, that it puts the brain in a particularly helpful and creative state. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking about something Stephen Burt says about Ashbery which Daniel E. Pritchard quotes in his review of _Planisphere_ (<a href="http://www.criticalflame.org/verse/0110_pritchard.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.criticalflame.org/verse/0110_pritchard.htm</a>): </p>
<p>“When you interpret Ashbery at all, you risk having sceptics tell you that you made it all up: that the poems demonstrate ingenuity not from the poet but from his interpreters, who find music in static, meaning in randomness, synthetic silk in a succession of sow’s ears&#8230;&#8221;   </p>
<p>I think the risk is definitely there and it&#8217;s one that should be taken seriously, but all of those activities listed (finding music in static, demonstrating ingenuity of interpretation, etc) sound like pretty positive things to me.  &#8220;Making it all up&#8221; can be beneficial&#8211;  I mean there is something to be said of writing that will elicit creative responses (like Christopher Robinson&#8217;s at Flatmancrooked&#8211; I loved that Machine, by the way).  I guess I want to suggest that Ashbery&#8217;s work urges us to creatively respond to our environment&#8211;no matter how random or static-filled it may seem.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 14:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The Big Other on John Ashbery&#8217;s Planisphere [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: John Madera</title>
		<link>http://bigother.com/2010/01/23/john-ashberys-planisphere-ecco-2009/#comment-3965</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Madera]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 03:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, I enjoyed how you used indexing as a mirroring frame; it has your characteristic humor. And I think your describing Asbery&#039;s best poems as &quot;unfurl[ing] with a melodic discursiveness and a freshness of diction, that include surprising turns of thought and phrase,&quot; is apt. Makes me want to go back and finish reading his &lt;em&gt;Collected Poems, 1956-1987&lt;/em&gt; (Library of America). I think, as far as I know, I reached as far as &lt;em&gt;As We Know&lt;/em&gt;.

By the way this begs for expansion:
&quot;I’m tempted to argue—but I won’t and, if so, only by way of paraleipsis—that reading Ashbery and grappling with his &#039;meaning threats&#039; can help recalibrate our minds so we can better navigate the clamor and confusion of our contemporary reality.

But I can understand how expanding on it would prove a vast undertaking.

Oh, have you seen this satirical take on how Ashbery writes poetry?
http://www.flatmancrooked.com/archives/5178]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I enjoyed how you used indexing as a mirroring frame; it has your characteristic humor. And I think your describing Asbery&#8217;s best poems as &#8220;unfurl[ing] with a melodic discursiveness and a freshness of diction, that include surprising turns of thought and phrase,&#8221; is apt. Makes me want to go back and finish reading his <em>Collected Poems, 1956-1987</em> (Library of America). I think, as far as I know, I reached as far as <em>As We Know</em>.</p>
<p>By the way this begs for expansion:<br />
&#8220;I’m tempted to argue—but I won’t and, if so, only by way of paraleipsis—that reading Ashbery and grappling with his &#8216;meaning threats&#8217; can help recalibrate our minds so we can better navigate the clamor and confusion of our contemporary reality.</p>
<p>But I can understand how expanding on it would prove a vast undertaking.</p>
<p>Oh, have you seen this satirical take on how Ashbery writes poetry?<br />
<a href="http://www.flatmancrooked.com/archives/5178" rel="nofollow">http://www.flatmancrooked.com/archives/5178</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Leong</title>
		<link>http://bigother.com/2010/01/23/john-ashberys-planisphere-ecco-2009/#comment-3964</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Leong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 03:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good call!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good call!</p>
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		<title>By: A D Jameson</title>
		<link>http://bigother.com/2010/01/23/john-ashberys-planisphere-ecco-2009/#comment-3961</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A D Jameson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 02:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those labyrinths in the top corners keep making me think I&#039;m looking at the Dalkey Archive Press logo...

http://booktrustadmin.kentlyons.com/images/image5018.jpg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those labyrinths in the top corners keep making me think I&#8217;m looking at the Dalkey Archive Press logo&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Leong</title>
		<link>http://bigother.com/2010/01/23/john-ashberys-planisphere-ecco-2009/#comment-3959</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Leong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 01:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, the design is really cool, isn&#039;t it? 

Definitely, the cover of _Planisphere_ is a lot snazzier than the covers of _A Worldly Country_ (2007) or _Where Shall I Wander_ (2005)--both are also from Ecco.  

But if you haven&#039;t read Ashbery in a while, I would check out those two before _Planisphere_; I think they have a bit more fluency and verve... But--actually--why not read them all?  I think with late Ashbery you can dip in and out of him easily.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the design is really cool, isn&#8217;t it? </p>
<p>Definitely, the cover of _Planisphere_ is a lot snazzier than the covers of _A Worldly Country_ (2007) or _Where Shall I Wander_ (2005)&#8211;both are also from Ecco.  </p>
<p>But if you haven&#8217;t read Ashbery in a while, I would check out those two before _Planisphere_; I think they have a bit more fluency and verve&#8230; But&#8211;actually&#8211;why not read them all?  I think with late Ashbery you can dip in and out of him easily.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan W. Bradley</title>
		<link>http://bigother.com/2010/01/23/john-ashberys-planisphere-ecco-2009/#comment-3956</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan W. Bradley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 01:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i&#039;ve been wanting to pick this up. i haven&#039;t read ashbery in a long time. i really like the cover design.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ve been wanting to pick this up. i haven&#8217;t read ashbery in a long time. i really like the cover design.</p>
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		<title>By: John Ashbery’s PLANISPHERE (Ecco, 2009) &#171; Stalactite Chandelier</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 22:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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