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		<title>By: A Guide to My Writing Here at Big Other &#171; BIG OTHER</title>
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		<title>By: My Favorite New Books of 2009, Part 1 &#171; BIG OTHER</title>
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		<title>By: John Madera</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 06:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought you were being tricksy with the Borges reference, but this is even better.]]></description>
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		<title>By: A D Jameson</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 06:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah, I meant to put that above comment here, below John&#039;s. Oh, well.

For anyone interested, this short documentary mentions Borges&#039;s influence on Cammell, Roeg, and PERFORMANCE:

INFLUENCE AND CONTROVERSY: THE MAKING OF PERFORMANCE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fikZwrIOpyQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGmZYKm7FGo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5pTz3YneCU

(See 2:24–3:30 in the second part for some discussion of ol&#039; &quot;Bor-gaze.&quot;)

...I&#039;ve watched this doc (it&#039;s on the DVD) and think it&#039;s OK—a bit clunky (hideous graphics!), but with good info and historical context. But it&#039;s no substitute for the original film.

...The original trailer of which is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdrW5Kwba0o

How I long for the days when trailers could include song lyrics like &quot;faggy little leather boys&quot;...

...not to mention Anita Pallenberg, topless...

...and portly Englishmen taking off their trousers...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, I meant to put that above comment here, below John&#8217;s. Oh, well.</p>
<p>For anyone interested, this short documentary mentions Borges&#8217;s influence on Cammell, Roeg, and PERFORMANCE:</p>
<p>INFLUENCE AND CONTROVERSY: THE MAKING OF PERFORMANCE:<br />
<span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://bigother.com/2009/12/18/my-favorite-new-books-of-2009-part-3/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/fikZwrIOpyQ/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span><br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGmZYKm7FGo" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGmZYKm7FGo</a><br />
<span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://bigother.com/2009/12/18/my-favorite-new-books-of-2009-part-3/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/U5pTz3YneCU/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
<p>(See 2:24–3:30 in the second part for some discussion of ol&#8217; &#8220;Bor-gaze.&#8221;)</p>
<p>&#8230;I&#8217;ve watched this doc (it&#8217;s on the DVD) and think it&#8217;s OK—a bit clunky (hideous graphics!), but with good info and historical context. But it&#8217;s no substitute for the original film.</p>
<p>&#8230;The original trailer of which is here:<br />
<span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://bigother.com/2009/12/18/my-favorite-new-books-of-2009-part-3/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/rdrW5Kwba0o/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
<p>How I long for the days when trailers could include song lyrics like &#8220;faggy little leather boys&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;not to mention Anita Pallenberg, topless&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;and portly Englishmen taking off their trousers&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: A D Jameson</title>
		<link>http://bigother.com/2009/12/18/my-favorite-new-books-of-2009-part-3/#comment-1695</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 06:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There actually is a Roeg/Borges connection: PERFORMANCE, Roeg&#039;s first film as director, ends with an amazing (and very direct) Borges reference. Although, at the time, that was probably more the doing of Roeg&#039;s co-director, the late and under-appreciated Donald Cammell.

...Interesting where this has gone, considering that the original post was about HIDING MAN. To bring it back a bit, I used the Google search box at Garfunkel&#039;s site to check on whether he&#039;s read any Barthelme. I found no results, but the search seemed a bit wonky (it didn&#039;t find books I know he&#039;s read).

He did read John Barth&#039;s THE END OF THE ROAD, in August 1968.

...Ah. I checked using Google proper, and no Barthelme. In fact, see this:
http://www.artgarfunkel.com/articles/newyorker.html

Quoting:
&quot;He also doesn’t read postmodern fiction—the Garfunkel Library contains no Pynchon or Barthelme. “I tried ‘Gravity’s Rainbow,’ and I thought it was fraudulent,” he said.&quot;

The man has spoken!

(I still love you, though, Mr. Garfunkel!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There actually is a Roeg/Borges connection: PERFORMANCE, Roeg&#8217;s first film as director, ends with an amazing (and very direct) Borges reference. Although, at the time, that was probably more the doing of Roeg&#8217;s co-director, the late and under-appreciated Donald Cammell.</p>
<p>&#8230;Interesting where this has gone, considering that the original post was about HIDING MAN. To bring it back a bit, I used the Google search box at Garfunkel&#8217;s site to check on whether he&#8217;s read any Barthelme. I found no results, but the search seemed a bit wonky (it didn&#8217;t find books I know he&#8217;s read).</p>
<p>He did read John Barth&#8217;s THE END OF THE ROAD, in August 1968.</p>
<p>&#8230;Ah. I checked using Google proper, and no Barthelme. In fact, see this:<br />
<a href="http://www.artgarfunkel.com/articles/newyorker.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.artgarfunkel.com/articles/newyorker.html</a></p>
<p>Quoting:<br />
&#8220;He also doesn’t read postmodern fiction—the Garfunkel Library contains no Pynchon or Barthelme. “I tried ‘Gravity’s Rainbow,’ and I thought it was fraudulent,” he said.&#8221;</p>
<p>The man has spoken!</p>
<p>(I still love you, though, Mr. Garfunkel!)</p>
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		<title>By: John Madera</title>
		<link>http://bigother.com/2009/12/18/my-favorite-new-books-of-2009-part-3/#comment-1692</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 05:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know about that, since the two letters that Roeg needs to spell Borges is &quot;bs&quot;.

Looks like you got the last word up there. Comments only go nine deep.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about that, since the two letters that Roeg needs to spell Borges is &#8220;bs&#8221;.</p>
<p>Looks like you got the last word up there. Comments only go nine deep.</p>
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		<title>By: A D Jameson</title>
		<link>http://bigother.com/2009/12/18/my-favorite-new-books-of-2009-part-3/#comment-1690</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 05:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure! Don&#039;t worry—eventually all my posts will be about Roeg...

And all other Big Other posts. Roeg is the the cinematic equivalent of Tlön...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure! Don&#8217;t worry—eventually all my posts will be about Roeg&#8230;</p>
<p>And all other Big Other posts. Roeg is the the cinematic equivalent of Tlön&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John Madera</title>
		<link>http://bigother.com/2009/12/18/my-favorite-new-books-of-2009-part-3/#comment-1689</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Madera]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 05:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As these comment boxes get smaller and smaller I realize that your comments here merit full-on posts of their own. Let&#039;s see some Garfunkel and Roeg love-fests. Well, not between those two, of course.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As these comment boxes get smaller and smaller I realize that your comments here merit full-on posts of their own. Let&#8217;s see some Garfunkel and Roeg love-fests. Well, not between those two, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: A D Jameson</title>
		<link>http://bigother.com/2009/12/18/my-favorite-new-books-of-2009-part-3/#comment-1687</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A D Jameson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 05:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that a lot of people dislike BAD TIMING because they view it as when Roeg started to &quot;slip.&quot; That is to say, they want to claim PERFORMANCE, WALKABOUT, DON&#039;T LOOK NOW, and THE MAN WHO FELL TO EARTH as the man&#039;s masterpieces, then let the rest lie (although some don&#039;t want to include TMWFTE).

I believe this has a lot to do with how frank it is concerning sex, and abusive relationships. Which is what Roeg&#039;s films become increasingly about starting with BAD TIMING (although that theme is present from the start).

Personally, I think that his string of masterpieces includes and extends past BAD TIMING to EUREKA, which I currently consider the greatest unknown film of the 1980s.

And Roeg&#039;s films past EUREKA are also pretty strong: CASTAWAY, INSIGNIFICANCE, and THE WITCHES are all good. (For anyone who liked FANTASTIC MR. FOX and needs more Dahl adaptation: check out that last one! Very good, and very disturbing—the way Dahl should be. Although the last scene is pure nonsense.)

Anyway, BAD TIMING: A SENSUAL OBSESSION is a great film! It&#039;s no surprise that the Criterion Collection snatched it up. (I imagine they&#039;d love to do all of the early Roeg films.)

As some unnamed executive said of it at the time, &quot;It&#039;s a sick film for sick people.&quot; *Precisely!*]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that a lot of people dislike BAD TIMING because they view it as when Roeg started to &#8220;slip.&#8221; That is to say, they want to claim PERFORMANCE, WALKABOUT, DON&#8217;T LOOK NOW, and THE MAN WHO FELL TO EARTH as the man&#8217;s masterpieces, then let the rest lie (although some don&#8217;t want to include TMWFTE).</p>
<p>I believe this has a lot to do with how frank it is concerning sex, and abusive relationships. Which is what Roeg&#8217;s films become increasingly about starting with BAD TIMING (although that theme is present from the start).</p>
<p>Personally, I think that his string of masterpieces includes and extends past BAD TIMING to EUREKA, which I currently consider the greatest unknown film of the 1980s.</p>
<p>And Roeg&#8217;s films past EUREKA are also pretty strong: CASTAWAY, INSIGNIFICANCE, and THE WITCHES are all good. (For anyone who liked FANTASTIC MR. FOX and needs more Dahl adaptation: check out that last one! Very good, and very disturbing—the way Dahl should be. Although the last scene is pure nonsense.)</p>
<p>Anyway, BAD TIMING: A SENSUAL OBSESSION is a great film! It&#8217;s no surprise that the Criterion Collection snatched it up. (I imagine they&#8217;d love to do all of the early Roeg films.)</p>
<p>As some unnamed executive said of it at the time, &#8220;It&#8217;s a sick film for sick people.&#8221; *Precisely!*</p>
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