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		<title>By: John Dermot Woods</title>
		<link>http://bigother.com/2009/11/24/the-compulsion-to-collect-makes-novels/#comment-1009</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Dermot Woods]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As you know, Heather, I completely get with your sentiment. We all need a potato room under house to put our stuff in. Sometimes, though, we leave it down there so long we can only guess what it has become. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you know, Heather, I completely get with your sentiment. We all need a potato room under house to put our stuff in. Sometimes, though, we leave it down there so long we can only guess what it has become.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather Cousins</title>
		<link>http://bigother.com/2009/11/24/the-compulsion-to-collect-makes-novels/#comment-985</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Heather Cousins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John (and all),

I stumbled on Big Other through a link Kristen provided.  I&#039;m so glad I did.  This post, in particular, struck a chord.  These are wonderful musings.  You&#039;ve managed to put into beautiful context--better than I have been able to--some of my own thoughts.

I often put memories and even physical objects into my poems in order to salvage them in some kind of psychic museum (despite knowing that time will erase even these; I try to fool myself into thinking I can somehow save them).  I wanted to be an archaeologist before I decided to become a poet, and I think there is a connection between these fields.   An archaeologist uncovers artifacts, which find their way into a museum collection.  A writer too, excavates, draws out artifacts, linguistically, and puts them on display.  I think writing, and putting into one&#039;s writing certain people, places, and objects is an act against personal dissolution.  It IS collecting (one of the reasons I think the title of your own book, The Complete Collection of People, Places, and Things, is so brilliant).  Margaret Atwood has an essay called &quot;Negotiating with the Dead,&quot; in which she claims all writers are motivated by a concern with death--that writers are conversing with the dead and, simultaneously, writing against death.  I think all these ideas are intertwined.

There is a quote by poet Marianne Boruch that seems apropos:  &quot;A poem is a box, a thing, to put other things in.  For safe keeping.&quot; (The American Poetry Review, 2006)  One could easily replace poem with story, novel, painting, I think.

For me, it is simultaneously satisfying and painful (such a strange paradox) to know that, like Benjamin with his Arcades project, we can never fully recreate a life, our world.

I also collected Topps and Donruss baseball cards in the 80s.  I never even watched baseball.  I just liked collecting.  I didn&#039;t even know who most of the players were.  I liked sorting and organizing them and trading with my brother.  I remember a Don Mattingly card he was particularly desperate to take off my hands.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John (and all),</p>
<p>I stumbled on Big Other through a link Kristen provided.  I&#8217;m so glad I did.  This post, in particular, struck a chord.  These are wonderful musings.  You&#8217;ve managed to put into beautiful context&#8211;better than I have been able to&#8211;some of my own thoughts.</p>
<p>I often put memories and even physical objects into my poems in order to salvage them in some kind of psychic museum (despite knowing that time will erase even these; I try to fool myself into thinking I can somehow save them).  I wanted to be an archaeologist before I decided to become a poet, and I think there is a connection between these fields.   An archaeologist uncovers artifacts, which find their way into a museum collection.  A writer too, excavates, draws out artifacts, linguistically, and puts them on display.  I think writing, and putting into one&#8217;s writing certain people, places, and objects is an act against personal dissolution.  It IS collecting (one of the reasons I think the title of your own book, The Complete Collection of People, Places, and Things, is so brilliant).  Margaret Atwood has an essay called &#8220;Negotiating with the Dead,&#8221; in which she claims all writers are motivated by a concern with death&#8211;that writers are conversing with the dead and, simultaneously, writing against death.  I think all these ideas are intertwined.</p>
<p>There is a quote by poet Marianne Boruch that seems apropos:  &#8220;A poem is a box, a thing, to put other things in.  For safe keeping.&#8221; (The American Poetry Review, 2006)  One could easily replace poem with story, novel, painting, I think.</p>
<p>For me, it is simultaneously satisfying and painful (such a strange paradox) to know that, like Benjamin with his Arcades project, we can never fully recreate a life, our world.</p>
<p>I also collected Topps and Donruss baseball cards in the 80s.  I never even watched baseball.  I just liked collecting.  I didn&#8217;t even know who most of the players were.  I liked sorting and organizing them and trading with my brother.  I remember a Don Mattingly card he was particularly desperate to take off my hands.</p>
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		<title>By: John Dermot Woods</title>
		<link>http://bigother.com/2009/11/24/the-compulsion-to-collect-makes-novels/#comment-822</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Dermot Woods]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can feel that destruction, Michael, in my own collection urges. Maybe it&#039;s an idea of possession - we want &quot;the whole thing&quot; because we can then control of it, and, as such, dispense of it. 

That conference looks interesting; I think I&#039;ll try to make it out to NJ. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can feel that destruction, Michael, in my own collection urges. Maybe it&#8217;s an idea of possession &#8211; we want &#8220;the whole thing&#8221; because we can then control of it, and, as such, dispense of it. </p>
<p>That conference looks interesting; I think I&#8217;ll try to make it out to NJ.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Leong</title>
		<link>http://bigother.com/2009/11/24/the-compulsion-to-collect-makes-novels/#comment-812</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Leong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 12:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting post, John.  Because of my dissertation, I&#039;ve been thinking about these issues in Derridean terms-- that the archival impulse, the fever to collect is bound with the &quot;archiviolithic,&quot; the fever to destroy: &quot;right on that which permits and conditions archivization, we will never find anything other than that which exposes to destruction, and in truth menaces with destruction, introducing, a priori, forgetfulness and the archiviolithic into the heart of the monument...The archive always works, and a priori, against itself.&quot;

By the way, there will be conference on collecting next month at Rutgers: 

http://cca.rutgers.edu/events/public/spring10/collecting.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post, John.  Because of my dissertation, I&#8217;ve been thinking about these issues in Derridean terms&#8211; that the archival impulse, the fever to collect is bound with the &#8220;archiviolithic,&#8221; the fever to destroy: &#8220;right on that which permits and conditions archivization, we will never find anything other than that which exposes to destruction, and in truth menaces with destruction, introducing, a priori, forgetfulness and the archiviolithic into the heart of the monument&#8230;The archive always works, and a priori, against itself.&#8221;</p>
<p>By the way, there will be conference on collecting next month at Rutgers: </p>
<p><a href="http://cca.rutgers.edu/events/public/spring10/collecting.html" rel="nofollow">http://cca.rutgers.edu/events/public/spring10/collecting.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Dermot Woods</title>
		<link>http://bigother.com/2009/11/24/the-compulsion-to-collect-makes-novels/#comment-619</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Dermot Woods]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, yeah, Greg, I had those stickers. AND I put them into the book. Some kids wouldn&#039;t peel them; they said it &quot;ruined their value.&quot; I was into the &#039;88 Fleer set - red white and blue borders. Included the once-coveted Gregg Jeffries rookie card. That career didn&#039;t go so well. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, yeah, Greg, I had those stickers. AND I put them into the book. Some kids wouldn&#8217;t peel them; they said it &#8220;ruined their value.&#8221; I was into the &#8217;88 Fleer set &#8211; red white and blue borders. Included the once-coveted Gregg Jeffries rookie card. That career didn&#8217;t go so well.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Gerke</title>
		<link>http://bigother.com/2009/11/24/the-compulsion-to-collect-makes-novels/#comment-615</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Gerke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a great post John. I can only respond on a memory level. For me it was a set of 1983 Fleer baseball cards. The year after the Brewers only WS appearance. Also, you remember topps baseball stickers? I was all over that too. There was the correlation of the player to the record, like I had to have the sticker of the AL stolen base leader (Rickey of course) and paste him into the box for title of stolen base leader to be legit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great post John. I can only respond on a memory level. For me it was a set of 1983 Fleer baseball cards. The year after the Brewers only WS appearance. Also, you remember topps baseball stickers? I was all over that too. There was the correlation of the player to the record, like I had to have the sticker of the AL stolen base leader (Rickey of course) and paste him into the box for title of stolen base leader to be legit.</p>
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		<title>By: Shya Scanlon</title>
		<link>http://bigother.com/2009/11/24/the-compulsion-to-collect-makes-novels/#comment-589</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shya Scanlon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So perhaps it is indeed a Bataille-like gift-impulse.  A gift-economy of our will-to-power.  Can&#039;t gain it through the art itself?  Than do it in the next best way: by intentionally sacrificing the material wealth you&#039;re already abdicating implicitly through your chosen avocation.  It&#039;s like a kid holding his bladder to express the control he&#039;s lacking in his dysfunctional family life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So perhaps it is indeed a Bataille-like gift-impulse.  A gift-economy of our will-to-power.  Can&#8217;t gain it through the art itself?  Than do it in the next best way: by intentionally sacrificing the material wealth you&#8217;re already abdicating implicitly through your chosen avocation.  It&#8217;s like a kid holding his bladder to express the control he&#8217;s lacking in his dysfunctional family life.</p>
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		<title>By: John Dermot Woods</title>
		<link>http://bigother.com/2009/11/24/the-compulsion-to-collect-makes-novels/#comment-588</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Dermot Woods]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shya, that creative experience feels very similar to my own. Like you   too, my material instinct is increasingly to purge and shed stuff. As   a kid it was anything but. Maybe this ideological collecting instinct   is compensatory one. Kind of filling a hole. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shya, that creative experience feels very similar to my own. Like you   too, my material instinct is increasingly to purge and shed stuff. As   a kid it was anything but. Maybe this ideological collecting instinct   is compensatory one. Kind of filling a hole.</p>
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		<title>By: John Madera</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Madera]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I didn&#039;t know Aby Warburg&#039;s &lt;em&gt;Mnemosyne&lt;/em&gt;. I like his idea of researching &quot;visual clusters.&quot; It made me think of &quot;literary clusters,&quot; stylistic, rhetorical, and syntactic affinities beyond surface attributes that demonstrate through lines across history.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t know Aby Warburg&#8217;s <em>Mnemosyne</em>. I like his idea of researching &#8220;visual clusters.&#8221; It made me think of &#8220;literary clusters,&#8221; stylistic, rhetorical, and syntactic affinities beyond surface attributes that demonstrate through lines across history.</p>
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		<title>By: Shya</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shya]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What do you think this says about those of us who simply don&#039;t have the impulse to collect? I tend to get rid of as much as I attain--a practice that&#039;s left me with no more at age 34 than I possessed at age 24 (perhaps less).  I certainly understand working in serials, however--though I always thought of the tendency as born of anxiety about endings, rather than attraction to them.  

After writing Forecast, I flailed around a bit until deciding that what I thought I&#039;d finished wasn&#039;t done, but only by 1/3.  So I wrote two more books along similar thematic lines and called it a trilogy.  Likewise, when composing poems or shorter works, I find myself unsatisfied by the thought of writing a single poem.  Rather, I must be &quot;working on a series.&quot;  It&#039;s this extensibility I seem to be after, not wanting the song to really end.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you think this says about those of us who simply don&#8217;t have the impulse to collect? I tend to get rid of as much as I attain&#8211;a practice that&#8217;s left me with no more at age 34 than I possessed at age 24 (perhaps less).  I certainly understand working in serials, however&#8211;though I always thought of the tendency as born of anxiety about endings, rather than attraction to them.  </p>
<p>After writing Forecast, I flailed around a bit until deciding that what I thought I&#8217;d finished wasn&#8217;t done, but only by 1/3.  So I wrote two more books along similar thematic lines and called it a trilogy.  Likewise, when composing poems or shorter works, I find myself unsatisfied by the thought of writing a single poem.  Rather, I must be &#8220;working on a series.&#8221;  It&#8217;s this extensibility I seem to be after, not wanting the song to really end.</p>
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